# Julia Port Evaluation Tracks evidence for and against porting the Deep CFR training pipeline from Python/Cython to Julia. Plot/game/parity stays Python regardless; the candidate scope is the training stack (traversal, networks, inference). ## Why we are even considering this `docs/performance.md` "Option A Bench Result and Structural Ceiling" established that the current sync-blocking traversal in Python multiprocessing caps realized batch size at `num_workers`. Escaping that ceiling requires either restructuring traversal (Option B/C) or moving to a runtime where threads can carry many concurrent traversals in one process. Julia is the most credible candidate for the latter (Mojo too immature, free-threaded CPython requires nogil-cleaning our existing Cython — see `docs/reports/cost_*` triplet). Decision criteria for going forward: 1. Single-thread compute parity with current Cython (or better). 2. GC behavior under tight CFR-shape recursion is acceptable (low pause time, low share). 3. Multi-thread scaling on the same CFR-shape pattern is near-linear, demonstrating the GIL-free promise actually holds. 4. ML stack (Flux.jl + CUDA.jl) covers our needs (MLP forward, AD, GPU). Our model is small and standard. 5. A real-game-state slice can be ported and compared head-to-head. ## Evidence so far ### 2026-05-07 — Safe heuristic single-thread parity (criterion 1) Path: `experiments/julia_safe_heuristic/`. 1,838 snapshots in 157.471 ms median (~85.6 μs/call). Action-sequence parity vs Python. Same order of magnitude as the Cython port of the same bot (Cython gives ~2.55× over original Python on a 200-game eval). **Verdict on criterion 1:** Pass for isolated single-call work. ### 2026-05-07 — CFR-shape recursion toy (criteria 1, 2) Path: `experiments/julia_cfr_toy/`. See that directory's README for the full table. Headline: Julia ~1.9× faster than Cython, 0 MB allocation, 0% GC time on the hot path. Root regret parity ε ≤ 1e-9. **Verdict on criterion 1:** Pass. Julia matches or beats Cython on the CFR-shape pattern. **Verdict on criterion 2:** Strong pass. Type-stable code produces zero heap traffic. The GC concern that was the main argument against Julia adoption did not materialize here. Caveats: Cython 21.3 MB alloc suggests room for tighter typing; best-effort Cython could narrow the gap. Toy is not a game. ### 2026-05-07 — CFR-shape multi-thread scaling on the same toy (criterion 3) Path: `experiments/julia_cfr_toy/` (`bench_cfr_threaded.jl`). Same 100 iters × 1000 traversals total work split across threads. Thread- local trees, root regrets reduced at the end. | threads | iter ms | speedup | efficiency | | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: | | 1 | 0.223 | 1.00× | 100% | | 2 | 0.130 | 1.71× | 85% | | 4 | 0.097 | 2.29× | 57% | | 8 | 0.093 | 2.40× | 30% | The light workload is too small to settle the question: 1T iter time is only ~0.2 ms, so thread dispatch overhead can dominate. Heavy mode keeps the same tree and algorithm but increases traversals per iteration from 1000 to 50000 (50× work). This raises 1T iter time to 8.272 ms. | threads | iter ms | speedup | efficiency | | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: | | 1 | 8.272 | 1.00× | 100% | | 2 | 5.058 | 1.64× | 82% | | 4 | 2.602 | 3.18× | 79% | | 8 | 1.739 | 4.76× | 59% | **Verdict on criterion 3:** PARTIAL. Heavy 8T efficiency is 59%. Dispatch overhead was a significant part of the light-mode result, but the heavier workload still does not reach near-linear 8-thread scaling. Julia delivers useful throughput scaling (4.76× at 8T), but this is not the decisive PASS threshold for the threading criterion. ## Open evidence (criteria 4, 5) - **Flux.jl + CUDA.jl MLP forward at bs={1, 64, 256}.** Compare to PyTorch numbers in `docs/performance.md`. Criterion 4. Not started. - **Real-game-state slice port.** Port `play_card` + scoring, run on a fixed corpus of game states, compare to current Cython. Criterion 5. Not started. ## Decision posture Promising but not enough to justify a port yet. The completed benchmarks remove the main risk (GC under recursion) and confirm compute parity. Heavy thread scaling upgrades criterion 3 from inconclusive to PARTIAL: 8T is 4.76× faster than 1T, but 59% efficiency is below the near-linear PASS threshold. This means Julia remains a credible option, but not a slam dunk. ML-stack and game-state evidence (criteria 4, 5) must be positive before starting a serious port plan. If those are positive, criterion 3 should be revisited on a real traversal slice where each thread has substantially more work than this toy benchmark. Do not commit to porting on the current evidence alone.